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« on: 12/21/11 06:28 AM »

I just ordered the black bear auto cal, I hope it works well. I'll let you no when it arrives
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« Reply #1 on: 12/27/11 01:30 PM »

Please do, I always like to hear what people have to say.  I have only heard good things about them.
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« Reply #2 on: 12/28/11 01:16 AM »

hey chevy nick your the one i talked to on too talk aren't you
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« Reply #3 on: 12/28/11 02:18 AM »

Yep, that's me.  Skidoo nick700.  So you decided to go with the blackbear tune I see... I want to do this tune so bad lol.  You should do a speedo video before  and after from like 0 to whatever possible.
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« Reply #4 on: 12/28/11 03:02 AM »

Blackbear and nelson are awesome tuners, Allen owns nelson performance, i dont remember his name on here but he has a turbo avy
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« Reply #5 on: 12/28/11 09:20 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: 01/04/12 02:55 PM »

Stogen, any update? Huh
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« Reply #7 on: 01/04/12 03:32 PM »

He's to busy... Drive!
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« Reply #8 on: 01/05/12 09:00 AM »

It's still in the. Ail, I emailed black bear the other day the said they've seen  a 2 to 14 day hold at Canadian customs I ordered it last Wednesday  banghead
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« Reply #9 on: 01/05/12 09:36 AM »

Gotta love customs!
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« Reply #10 on: 01/05/12 03:04 PM »

when i ordered my auto-cal from blackbear, it took 2-3 weeks to get the tuner in the mail..
then another 5 weeks to get the tune in an email from them
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« Reply #11 on: 01/05/12 03:50 PM »

where to start with them?  any link to post where to view options with the companies would be awesome.  Anyone with experience mind giving kind of a overview of what all is involved?
Thx!
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« Reply #12 on: 01/05/12 03:58 PM »

Involved with getting a tune?
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« Reply #13 on: 01/05/12 06:44 PM »

where to start with them?  any link to post where to view options with the companies would be awesome.  Anyone with experience mind giving kind of a overview of what all is involved?
Thx!

Are you talking about the process of getting the tune from Black Bear? If so, read on.

Just google Black Bear Performance, you will find them.  Their website lists the multiple ways to get a tune.  Click on Services and they describe how each service works.  Typically,  I believe most people do the Data Logging Tune.  If possible, people opt for the in-person tune, but the chances of that depend on where you live, and where Justin from black bear performance is "staying" at.
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« Reply #14 on: 01/05/12 08:14 PM »

oic, i was confused as to how they would receive the personalized info from each vehicle, but makes more sense now lol
Thx guys  chevy
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« Reply #15 on: 01/05/12 10:51 PM »

Hey GB, I would suggest you check out nelson performance. He's in san antonio and can get you a dyno tune at his shop, his screen name on here is farmtruc, think about it and you wont be disappointed!
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« Reply #16 on: 01/06/12 02:23 AM »

i smell road trip...
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« Reply #17 on: 01/06/12 12:38 PM »

Ill go if you go... 
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« Reply #18 on: 01/18/12 10:39 AM »

i just got it in the mail, i drove around for a bit recording  numerous driving types. i just emailed them my stock tune. and now for the waiting game again... i just hope i don't half to wait 5 weeks like biggmachz  banghead
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« Reply #19 on: 01/18/12 11:54 AM »

Haha woohooo, you're gettin there! Can't wait to hear your results Woohoo!
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« Reply #20 on: 01/18/12 02:12 PM »

Getting there stogen! Hey, just curious, what's with your avatar pic? Work related at all?
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« Reply #21 on: 01/18/12 02:59 PM »

Getting there stogen! Hey, just curious, what's with your avatar pic? Work related at all?
no I just thought it looked cool google gas masks it's suposto be trees branches in the eyes
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« Reply #22 on: 01/18/12 03:30 PM »

I don't need google for that  Cool!
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« Reply #23 on: 01/18/12 08:42 PM »

Stogen, I know I said this earlier, but could you really consider doing some sort of speedo video before & after the tune? Please? I'm asking you as one club member to another, one dootalker to another, haha.  I've never come across a video that's worthy.  Somehow people think doing one vid 0-60 and another 20-60 is good for comparison...

And one other thing, how did you tell Blackbear to tune your truck? Like which octane, and is it more economy or performance or all-around?  They sending you a new PCM?
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« Reply #24 on: 01/19/12 07:34 AM »

Absolutely Chevynick I will do a comparison, and I bought the Blackbear tuner it says drive around for a half hour at various driving rates (with the tuner plugged in to the obd2) it records everything then I plug it into my computer and email the file to them, then they tweak it and send it back to you then I load it back on to the tuner and into my truck Drive! 
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« Reply #25 on: 01/19/12 01:56 PM »

Ok cool beans, can't wait! Woot!
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« Reply #26 on: 02/04/12 06:55 PM »

Still haven't received any tune yet?
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« Reply #27 on: 02/04/12 07:24 PM »

I've learned to be VERY patient  Cool! with email tunes.  Keep in mind that these guys tune not only locally in house, but send email tunes, literally all over the world.  I doubt they have 100 employees working on tunes day/night...probably more like 2/3 guys that work mon-fri 9a-5p.

I often have to wait months  Cry  to hear back from Nelson...sometimes I'll get his attention for a few days at a time  Woohoo!  , but once I lose him...it's another 3 months  banghead Can be quite frusterating  Sigh  .
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« Reply #28 on: 02/04/12 08:50 PM »

I've learned to be VERY patient  Cool! with email tunes.  Keep in mind that these guys tune not only locally in house, but send email tunes, literally all over the world.  I doubt they have 100 employees working on tunes day/night...probably more like 2/3 guys that work mon-fri 9a-5p.

I often have to wait months  Cry  to hear back from Nelson...sometimes I'll get his attention for a few days at a time  Woohoo!  , but once I lose him...it's another 3 months  banghead Can be quite frusterating  Sigh  .

Yeah I completely understand.  I think blackbear only has like two people writing tunes.  But that's the whole reason why they are known to do absolutely amazing work.  They also travel across the country to do the in person tunes so those guys' lives have to be hecktic to say the least. 

Waiting multiple months wouldn't be any fun that's for sure, but as long as it isn't anything serious and youre still able to drive your vehicle, it is what it is ya know.
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« Reply #29 on: 02/04/12 11:23 PM »

He's always on ls1truck.com, if you ever need his attention let me know!!
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« Reply #30 on: 02/05/12 04:51 AM »

I can't figure this program out he keeps giving me instructions on it, I follow them and he says it's the ring file. He says I'm sending him the ctd. File not the efi. File but I sent the efi. File I even took a picture of the file and attached it. I probably just suck with computers. I regret spending the money on this.....
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« Reply #31 on: 02/05/12 07:10 AM »

Aww man I would help if I could.  I'm going to school for a degree in IT.  We need to do a remote connection haha.
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« Reply #32 on: 02/05/12 07:50 AM »

Aww man I would help if I could.  I'm going to school for a degree in IT.  We need to do a remote connection haha.

Oh...an "IT" guy...   Tongue

Sorry...but you'd be better off going for your Janitorial degree.  Nothing personal against you...just "IT" guys.
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« Reply #33 on: 02/05/12 07:57 AM »

He's always on ls1truck.com, if you ever need his attention let me know!!

Yeah, I get him there sometimes, but I prefer to direct my tuning issues to his business account.  When I can't get him there, I shoot a quickie to LS1trucks.

Stogen, don't give up too quickly.  I don't know how the BlackBear thing works, but I'm sure it's similar to Nelson's tunes.  One file is the tune itself, the other file is a program that set's up the tune file.  Often, programmers need both files so one can be used to modify the other.  Think of it like a computer...you have a processor and then there's everything else.  Remember the intel processor commercials...the slogan "intel inside"? ... same thing, only different. Thumbs up!
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« Reply #34 on: 02/05/12 09:41 AM »

Oh...an "IT" guy...   Tongue

Sorry...but you'd be better off going for your Janitorial degree.  Nothing personal against you...just "IT" guys.

Shoot, I've already got my masters in Janitorial.  I maintain a 13000sq ft machine shop among many other things I currently do there :p
Honestly this whole IT degree thing is becoming less attractive as I'm currently finishing my second year.  Id almost rather bust my behind in this machine shop the rest of my life than do this thing called IT. Or I'd even rather detail cars the rest of my life lol.  Whatever I do, I want somethin that's gonna keep me working hard and busy nonstop.  I consider myself a workhorse lol, can't sit still.

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« Reply #35 on: 02/16/12 04:22 PM »

I got my tune it's ok, nothing special the shift points are cleaned up nicely. There's not much more power, they were suppose to program my PCM for 33" tires, which never happend. In my opinion not worth 600 bucks...
I had a real hard time with the program but that's because I suck at computers.
Chevy nick I'm sorry I could not do a comparison this has been to much of a hassle.
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« Reply #36 on: 02/16/12 06:40 PM »

I got my tune it's ok, nothing special the shift points are cleaned up nicely. There's not much more power, they were suppose to program my PCM for 33" tires, which never happend. In my opinion not worth 600 bucks...
I had a real hard time with the program but that's because I suck at computers.
Chevy nick I'm sorry I could not do a comparison this has been to much of a hassle.

Dang I'm sorry to hear that... It's alright man don't worry about the comparison.  This kinda makes me rethink spending money on it.  Although $600??
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« Reply #37 on: 02/16/12 07:29 PM »

If I could start over I would just go Nelson tune
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« Reply #38 on: 04/05/13 11:49 PM »

If I could start over I would just go Nelson tune
stogen:

I'm going to get a custom tune, sometime this year.

Now that you've had time to live with the BB tune for awhile, what do you think?  Would you still go with Nelson?

I waded through Nelson's site, and see no mention of an autocal-type device.  I want to be prepared for the day when I upgrade to the 6-speed.  As you know, the TCM is located inside the transmission on the 6, so swapping computers isn't an option.

Believe BB will tweak the tune at no additional cost.  Did you ever do that?

Pretty sure I'm going to go with the autocal, but thought I'd reach out to you for your thoughts.

Thanks for your help!

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« Reply #39 on: 04/06/13 06:36 PM »

stogen:

I'm going to get a custom tune, sometime this year.

Now that you've had time to live with the BB tune for awhile, what do you think?  Would you still go with Nelson?

I waded through Nelson's site, and see no mention of an autocal-type device.  I want to be prepared for the day when I upgrade to the 6-speed.  As you know, the TCM is located inside the transmission on the 6, so swapping computers isn't an option.

Believe BB will tweak the tune at no additional cost.  Did you ever do that?

Pretty sure I'm going to go with the autocal, but thought I'd reach out to you for your thoughts.

Thanks for your help!

Nick

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Thought about a second/third tweak from Black Bear. Wouldn't even answer my request email. Good fortune on my part...Alan ran me another tune on my spare modules at no cost. Pay for the tune once get updates on the same VIN for life. Want multiples? Just for the cost of the hardware or bring your own.


 
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« Reply #40 on: 04/06/13 07:16 PM »

Nelson!!

Alan ran me another tune on my spare modules at no cost.
Therin, lies the problem.  Eventually, I know I'll graduate to the 6-speed.  Can't remove the TCM modules without disassembling the transmission.

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« Reply #41 on: 04/07/13 02:29 PM »

Alan will still redo any tune for life at no charge. I currently have two tunes on separate hardware that I can swap out at will....91/93 for day to day use and 87 for flatland road tripping. I realize you can't do that convenience with a 6-spd but he'll still tweak it at will. Call him.

Note, however, as far as I know no tuner will tune another VIN for free if you were counting on that when you change trucks.
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« Reply #42 on: 04/09/13 01:21 PM »

i just bought a diablow sport intune for my 12 silvy, comes with can tunes or call lew for a cusome tune check out there site you can even call them for troubleshooting. way better customer service...
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« Reply #43 on: 04/11/13 12:27 AM »

way better customer service...
Customer service is important to me.  If something goes wrong, not sure I'd want to wait a couple of days (or, more) for a return e-mail.

Thanks for responding.

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