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Question: Which is the Best Programmer Available for our Av's?
Hypertech - 6 (25%)
Predator - 2 (8.3%)
Diablo - 4 (16.7%)
Edge Evolution - 2 (8.3%)
Bully - 2 (8.3%)
Other - 8 (33.3%)
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« Reply #25 on: 11/16/11 05:14 AM »

Thats what I was planning, its an additional $75, but I keep my original. PLus Nelson will re-tune for free for even Cam changes under 220 and non-charged modifications.

Im thinking more and more Nelson. If I cant upload current tune to Diablo, then I think I will skip that route.

Thanks for all the input guys. And hopefully this thread will help others out as well...the info out there is kind of vague sometimes.

If you're gonna go with Nelson, I'd recommend buying a new ECU. That way, you'll have the one set to stock, and the one with the Nelson tune in it.
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« Reply #26 on: 11/17/11 10:30 AM »

Which is what I did. Carry the stock ecm/tcm in the truck in case it needs to go on the hook while still under powertrain warranty...especially with TM removed. Five minutes to get back to stock.
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« Reply #27 on: 11/17/11 10:59 AM »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure black bear just came out with a hand held tune called "auto-cal" it'll run you about 500 for it and I believe you can tune multiple vehicles, and turn back to stock if desired.

I'm running super chips flashpaq and it's ok.. I'm about to put a cam in so I'll have to go custom Cool!
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8k HID, 18x9 machine rockstar xd, K&N, roughcountry leveling kit, two 12" kickers, ranch hand, p/a, vht nightshades, 33" bfg a/t, Iron Bull rear bumper, Pacesetter LT, Catless pipes, Magnaflow, nelson tune
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« Reply #28 on: 11/17/11 11:07 AM »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure black bear just came out with a hand held tune called "auto-cal" it'll run you about 500 for it and I believe you can tune multiple vehicles, and turn back to stock if desired.

I'm running super chips flashpaq and it's ok.. I'm about to put a cam in so I'll have to go custom Cool!
Now that's interesting.
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« Reply #29 on: 11/17/11 11:22 AM »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure black bear just came out with a hand held tune called "auto-cal" it'll run you about 500 for it and I believe you can tune multiple vehicles, and turn back to stock if desired.

I'm running super chips flashpaq and it's ok.. I'm about to put a cam in so I'll have to go custom Cool!
what cam are you putting in, I want to get input on them because Im putting one in this spring.......
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« Reply #30 on: 11/17/11 03:18 PM »

what cam are you putting in, I want to get input on them because Im putting one in this spring.......

Since I have D.O.D (displacement on demand) I will have to do a custom grind cam
here is the specs
a 224/230 581 592 -110, dual springs, 7.4 push rods. along with the DOD delete kit.
it should have a nice choppy idle but nothing too extreme. Its still going to be my daily driver.
 

Then ill probably do a trail blazer stall, shift kit, black bear tune and some other small things here and there.
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2008 z71 4x4 black leather
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8k HID, 18x9 machine rockstar xd, K&N, roughcountry leveling kit, two 12" kickers, ranch hand, p/a, vht nightshades, 33" bfg a/t, Iron Bull rear bumper, Pacesetter LT, Catless pipes, Magnaflow, nelson tune
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yank 2600, cam, dod/afm delete

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« Reply #31 on: 11/18/11 03:08 AM »

Ive been looking at 2 Cams, and also talking to Nelson about a custom grind.

The first Cam Ive looked at requires no re-tuning, as the ECU will learn it. Its the GM Performance p/n 12561721, and its the cam that is used in the Escalades and HO 5.7 and 6.0L engines.

The Second Cam ive been looking at is the XFI Xtreme Truck Cam, but it requires new valve springs and rockers, and requires a special Tune. p/n 54-450-11

Im leaning towards the GM one not because it doesnt require new springs/rockers, but because Im not looking to race my truck, just give it some more towing power.

what cam are you putting in, I want to get input on them because Im putting one in this spring.......
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« Reply #32 on: 11/18/11 03:41 AM »

 Cheesy Since im the OP, and I was going to start a thread concerning Cam upgrades might as well post a link here since we are on-topic of Cams: Its a different forum, but has most of the info on good Cam choices for our trucks, with part numbers, etc:
http://www.gmtruckclub.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-20961.html
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07 Mystic Gold Loaded LTZ 4x4 - 6.0L with 4LE70 super duty tranny - from the Factory! Prem Sound & Nav, Rear DVD, and all the goodies. An upgrade from the 05, but I have to admit, the 05 seats were a tad more comfy and a little larger. Mods/Upgrades - MSD Super Wires, NGK Iridium, Billet Grill, Real HID Projector HL's w/Halo, 22" Liquid Metal Rims on Nittos, Z-71 skid plate kit. Soon: Dual Exhaust & Custom Sound!
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« Reply #33 on: 11/18/11 03:51 AM »

And while were at it, this link is kick-a$$ 
http://books.google.com/books?id=Wpm8QyqDI3kC&pg=PA46&lpg=PA46&dq=GM+Performance+Cam+12561721&source=bl&ots=kVXuHXGYDu&sig=eIXG76Jjd58MPlyxzytZ2sDN6e4&hl=en&ei=KJPGTo6lLKaMsAKy4dQr&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=12&ved=0CHEQ6AEwCw#v=onepage&q=GM%20Performance%20Cam%2012561721&f=false
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« Reply #34 on: 11/21/11 06:06 AM »

http://www.blackbearperformance.com/autocal.asp

Is that what your talking about?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure black bear just came out with a hand held tune called "auto-cal" it'll run you about 500 for it and I believe you can tune multiple vehicles, and turn back to stock if desired.

I'm running super chips flashpaq and it's ok.. I'm about to put a cam in so I'll have to go custom Cool!
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« Reply #35 on: 01/05/12 04:03 PM »

Well, Im thinking of going with the BlackBear AutoCal:
http://www.blackbearperformance.com/autocal.asp

Anyone done one of these yet?
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« Reply #36 on: 01/09/12 06:59 PM »

yea there are a few people on here who have used the tune. Im probably going to go with a Nelson Tune after i put my lt's in this weekend
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2008 z71 4x4 black leather
Currently:
8k HID, 18x9 machine rockstar xd, K&N, roughcountry leveling kit, two 12" kickers, ranch hand, p/a, vht nightshades, 33" bfg a/t, Iron Bull rear bumper, Pacesetter LT, Catless pipes, Magnaflow, nelson tune
Soon to be:
yank 2600, cam, dod/afm delete

FORSALE
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